I’m not quite sure what it says about me that the most productive conversation I’ve had with an animal farmer was pretty unproductive; though I suppose you can never know if you’ve planted the seeds of change in the person or not just by their immediate response to you.
No one should have to die an early death at the hands of someone else without justification. And “bacon” is not a justification.
That said, pasted below is the short, to the point conversation I had with an animal farmer this morning (or a “meat grower” as she so eloquently put it).
The dialogue ended there, because I think everything that needed to be said was said. However I will respond to the last comment here, as a way to show the flaws in Cecilia’s defense to those who are newly vegan and want to effect change through conversation.
“Different cultures have different needs”
The culture that this woman lives in certainly does not “need” meat, nor does any Western culture. Unless you are for some reason living in barren ice lands where plants and crops don’t grow and your only means of survival is killing animals (in which case I’d suggest moving to a new place before breeding more people to live in such an uninhabitable place).
“Our food choices come down to what we can afford”
The UNNECESSARY, UNHEALTHY “foods” that are meat, dairy, and eggs are some of the MOST EXPENSIVE “food” items you can get. There is NOTHING affordable or fiscally responsible about buying meat. People in poor countries do not have the luxury of eating meat. And animal products are most certainly luxuries in this world; The only reason meat is cheap in Western fast food is because they factory farm the shit out of those animals to provide a fuck ton of product at a low cost.
“What we learned to eat as children”
As a child I learned to eat copious amounts of meat, dairy, and eggs. I also learned from the same people that virgins can get pregnant and that worshipping someone is a good thing to do; Learning an idea or behavior as a child does not excuse holding that idea or behavior in adulthood.
Anywho, I wanted to take this opportunity to show people that you do not need to be hostile or belligerent when confronting people who farm animals; In fact you can usually get further into the conversation by politely getting to the point of the issue without making it personal.
To bring up one thing I mentioned, the cognitive dissonance so blatantly displayed in this conversation and ones like it is such a reminder of why these conversations are necessary. The idea that one can kill animals unnecessarily but can be “never cruel” about it is, frankly, absurd.
How do you needlessly kill someone without cruelty? That’s a difficult one.
You can see Cecilia’s blog & slaughter operation (“farm”) at https://thekitchensgarden.com.
Perhaps ask her why she posts photos of the animals before she kills them (or has them killed) rather than showing the reality of why they exist to begin with: